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starbright73) wrote2009-04-26 05:34 pm
starbright73) wrote2009-04-26 05:34 pm
Caved and watched
mostly because of the reviews.
And the case was actually interesting because of the historical view It was clear that it was based on an actual case, because when the current writes make up their own cases they so clearly go overboard. There was team work, yay! The old Cath was back and I was actually interested right up till the very end. It wasn't stellar, not by a long shot but at least it seemed realistic and science was actually used. I'm sort of amazed that they can come up with an actual crime investigating ep!
And then, retcon ahoy -
I had to watch this because one part of fandom says Sam is an ass and John is just as big an ass while poor Dean suffers because he happens to be related to them. The other part says Dean wasn't very nice at all, but rather hypocritical.
I would kind of want to know when he took over the wish for normality that Sam sported? Dean was all gung-ho about hunting in S1 an even 2, now all of a sudden he ever wanted it and all he wanted was a white picket fence? How and when did this transition happen? I do get how it happened for Sam, with Dean's death. But for Dean? Is this too manifactured only to make us feel more sorry for Dean? At this point I have a hard time mustering any more sympathy, specially when I never saw the reasons for said transition. As late as in 3.16 he told Sam to go on hunting, like he and John taught him to. And now this? Retcon much?
And yes, after watching I realize they did a number on John, but it's not like he's the biggest ass in the world for this! And yes, Sam did want to train the kid instead of letting him have the normal life but heck? That's what he's learned by what's happened to him. He's lost everyone, I repeat, everyone he's ever loved. And he's not even worth enough for the demons to make a deal with. Well, except Lilith has finally come around but that's a tad late since Dean's out. Duh! And Dean was also ready to use a civilian as bait in S1, why is Sam 's action any different?
I don't get that show says Sam is totally John and Dean isn't? The speech that Sam gave Adam was exactly the same that dean gave to Sam in Skin and now it's forgotten? Dean's attitude towards Sam; everything he does and is is wrong, it's John reincarnated. Even Dean has gotten that treatment from John regarding the car in S1. How's only Sam like John all of a sudden? Is that what show is trying to sell me by having the anvils dropping all over the place and Dean (stand-in for the audience) actually telling us that he is? Not buying show, not buying. Both boys have taken a less flattering trait of John's and incorporated it. Sam has his blind obsession and he has always had it. Dean taken on the ordering around and dismissal of Sam, which he's had before but never to this extent. Why isn't that verbally pointed out? Because he has the right to order his useless, evol brother around like cattle? And here's where show and I have very different opinions on righteousness. And individualism and morals and - basically, show and I come from very different worlds.
Show is trying to sell me that Dean is the only true hero gets more and more confusing. I'm talking about Kripke's famous words: "Sorry Sam-girls, Dean is the only hero." I think they are assassinating Dean's character by making him seem self-righteous. A thing he never was before, a think I don't think even one that went to hell for his brother (or as I see it, because of his duty to John an his orders to look out for Sam) went to hell. But the last scene when he chews Sam down for being like John threw me. To me t came off like Dean truly holds himself better than any other Winchester, well maybe except for Adam who he was willing to let have a normal life and even go when he actually died. No bringing him back because he was in a better place? Huh? You went to get Sam and you didn't let him remain dead. What's up,Dean show? That was not a sacrifice, it was duty and if Dean really loved Sam, he wold have let him go to that better place, wouldn't he? Not seeing eye to eye again, show.
And again it struck me how very clinically depressed Sam i; the nihilistic speech about how nothing is real except the end of the world? The boy needs to be on medication or this will not end well. Just because he doesn't cry doesn't mean he's all right. Actually it's a very male behavior of the depressed. We are formed by gender-roles after all. But maybe it's just me and he really is evol. Whatever show, you're a soap anyways.
And of course with the kind of wounds and the bleeding he suffered to in the next scene be all fine I get that Sam's not important. The blood loss was important. Yes, Sam is the plot device, no questions about it at this stage.
But is it necessary to defile all other characters to have your hero shine, Kripke? Is it really? Is it necessary to retcon the very basics of this show? Sam didn't need blood to have visions, he didn't need it to have TK in S1, now he does? For 3 seasons it's been told that Sam has something inside of him, a bomb, except now he apparently doesn't and it's all due to outer sources? This really is fanfic at its worst.
And the case was actually interesting because of the historical view It was clear that it was based on an actual case, because when the current writes make up their own cases they so clearly go overboard. There was team work, yay! The old Cath was back and I was actually interested right up till the very end. It wasn't stellar, not by a long shot but at least it seemed realistic and science was actually used. I'm sort of amazed that they can come up with an actual crime investigating ep!
And then, retcon ahoy -
I had to watch this because one part of fandom says Sam is an ass and John is just as big an ass while poor Dean suffers because he happens to be related to them. The other part says Dean wasn't very nice at all, but rather hypocritical.
I would kind of want to know when he took over the wish for normality that Sam sported? Dean was all gung-ho about hunting in S1 an even 2, now all of a sudden he ever wanted it and all he wanted was a white picket fence? How and when did this transition happen? I do get how it happened for Sam, with Dean's death. But for Dean? Is this too manifactured only to make us feel more sorry for Dean? At this point I have a hard time mustering any more sympathy, specially when I never saw the reasons for said transition. As late as in 3.16 he told Sam to go on hunting, like he and John taught him to. And now this? Retcon much?
And yes, after watching I realize they did a number on John, but it's not like he's the biggest ass in the world for this! And yes, Sam did want to train the kid instead of letting him have the normal life but heck? That's what he's learned by what's happened to him. He's lost everyone, I repeat, everyone he's ever loved. And he's not even worth enough for the demons to make a deal with. Well, except Lilith has finally come around but that's a tad late since Dean's out. Duh! And Dean was also ready to use a civilian as bait in S1, why is Sam 's action any different?
I don't get that show says Sam is totally John and Dean isn't? The speech that Sam gave Adam was exactly the same that dean gave to Sam in Skin and now it's forgotten? Dean's attitude towards Sam; everything he does and is is wrong, it's John reincarnated. Even Dean has gotten that treatment from John regarding the car in S1. How's only Sam like John all of a sudden? Is that what show is trying to sell me by having the anvils dropping all over the place and Dean (stand-in for the audience) actually telling us that he is? Not buying show, not buying. Both boys have taken a less flattering trait of John's and incorporated it. Sam has his blind obsession and he has always had it. Dean taken on the ordering around and dismissal of Sam, which he's had before but never to this extent. Why isn't that verbally pointed out? Because he has the right to order his useless, evol brother around like cattle? And here's where show and I have very different opinions on righteousness. And individualism and morals and - basically, show and I come from very different worlds.
Show is trying to sell me that Dean is the only true hero gets more and more confusing. I'm talking about Kripke's famous words: "Sorry Sam-girls, Dean is the only hero." I think they are assassinating Dean's character by making him seem self-righteous. A thing he never was before, a think I don't think even one that went to hell for his brother (or as I see it, because of his duty to John an his orders to look out for Sam) went to hell. But the last scene when he chews Sam down for being like John threw me. To me t came off like Dean truly holds himself better than any other Winchester, well maybe except for Adam who he was willing to let have a normal life and even go when he actually died. No bringing him back because he was in a better place? Huh? You went to get Sam and you didn't let him remain dead. What's up,
And again it struck me how very clinically depressed Sam i; the nihilistic speech about how nothing is real except the end of the world? The boy needs to be on medication or this will not end well. Just because he doesn't cry doesn't mean he's all right. Actually it's a very male behavior of the depressed. We are formed by gender-roles after all. But maybe it's just me and he really is evol. Whatever show, you're a soap anyways.
And of course with the kind of wounds and the bleeding he suffered to in the next scene be all fine I get that Sam's not important. The blood loss was important. Yes, Sam is the plot device, no questions about it at this stage.
But is it necessary to defile all other characters to have your hero shine, Kripke? Is it really? Is it necessary to retcon the very basics of this show? Sam didn't need blood to have visions, he didn't need it to have TK in S1, now he does? For 3 seasons it's been told that Sam has something inside of him, a bomb, except now he apparently doesn't and it's all due to outer sources? This really is fanfic at its worst.
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I thought Henry Thomas' acting was brill in that last episode. And seeing all the science back again was stellar.
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